11 Now no  chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Roughed Up To Grow Up - Many Christians have to be lovingly roughed up before they will grow up. The section of Patience of Hope began with patience, and ends here with this note of abounding hopefulness--Yet afterward. In the NT the figurative (metaphorical) uses metaphorical uses predominate and this is particularly true in the Gospels, where human actions and words are viewed as fruit growing out of a person's essential being or character. Sometimes we look down on others who are suffering. They started a new work under the Bible Presbyterian Mission Board, opening a clinic in an area devoid of any hospital or church. God's loving hand of discipline Those old gnarlings on the roots, and those strange twistings of the branches, all tell of many storms that have swept over the aged tree. Is our highest end to display mere leafage, or to glorify God? He wants to feel us ceasing to struggle and to repentantly yield to His loving work. What does the Bible say? —Zoller Yes, to faith in Jesus the blessing still comes as to the man of old: Immediately his feet and his ankle bones received strength. (Phillips: Touchstone). We need bad weather to stimulate our spiritual development. Thereafter, Bertha Byram spent a week each year in prayer and fasting, living on "prison fare." Spurgeon - Let me ask those who are afflicted and have no religion where they get their comfort from. Believers not only receive the training itself but also the benefits of the training! Before I was afflicted I went astray; but now have I kept thy word." That book is written about misery; learn from the opposite,” I would thank him just as much for that as if the book were on happiness. There is equal danger of overrating our afflictions. W. Wiersbe, The Wycliffe Handbook of Preaching & Preachers, p. 189. It works us up to further degrees of sanctity. Lift up hands and knees, choose the straight path for your feet, rouse your whole being, and with your eye once more on Jesus, and in the faith He inspires, follow Him in the path of endurance. The swelling Nile, which seems to devastate the land, leaves the fertilizing deposit that afterwards enriches it with plenty. Unexplained and tedious now He has his best things last, and he therefore in this world receives his worst things first. This is exactly what this passage describes. It is not wrong to cry out loudly to God or to weep when you’re going through a difficult trial, because Jesus did that very thing (Heb. “But David strengthened himself in the Lord his God.” We see his submission to God’s discipline in that he did not assume that he should go after the enemy and re-cover his family and possessions. It appears to you very pure, and very beautiful to look at. Higher honour have none of God's servants than this one, unwelcome and rejected though it so often be. We have liberty, we have money, we live in comparative luxury. ), "This the apostle blames not, but aims at the moderating of it; seeks not altogether to dry up the stream, but to bound it and keep it within its banks. They make the heart more tranquil in its confidence in God, and more disposed to promote the religion of peace. I’ve shared with you before that on my 36th birthday, I had to conduct a funeral for a 39-year-old man who died of cancer, leaving a widow and two children. Such difficulties hurt for a while, but if we yield to the Lord we will find that life's bruises can mark the beginning of spiritual advances. When it is remembered that our chastisements often grow out of our sin; that to subdue some strong indwelling corruption, or to correct for some outward departure, the rod is sent; this should ever humble the soul; this should ever cause the rebuke to be rightly viewed; that were it not for some strong indwelling corruption, or some step taken in departure from God, the affliction would have been withheld; oh how should every stroke of the rod lay the soul in the dust before God! God uses setbacks to move us forward. That word was the summing up of all that there was to say of affliction. Thirst is good as preparatory for water; hunger is good as antecedent to food; but who can rest in thirst or hunger? He chastens us for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. Yet afterward. If God sent us trials such as we would wish for, they would be no trials.". For even if in this life only we had hope, we should be of all men most happy, really, in our spirits, although we might seem to be “of all people most pitiable” (1Cor 15:19). Scientists say that the seeds of some desert bushes must be damaged by a storm before they will germinate. Blue-ribbon Christians - While visiting New England, I was presented with a tin of pure Vermont maple syrup. (The Holiest of All - Yet Afterward). Three times Paul asked God to remove his thorn in the flesh, but when God told Paul that His grace was sufficient, Paul was content to live with the distress (2Co 12:8, 9-note, 2Co 12:10-note). But because she loved him, she continued his discipline and training. (Andrew Murray. A leader's own salvation and spiritual progress are protected by humbling adversity. Both terms mean godliness or conformity to Jesus Christ, who is the embodiment of godliness (Rom. To help us choose His way. Chara in Hebrews - Heb 10:34; Heb 12:2, 11; Heb 13:17. Bruce Hunt stood as prisoners in the civil court. (7) God’s discipline produces the peaceful fruit of righteousness by developing the fruit of the Spirit in us and thus making us more usable in His service. —Philip Yancey, Afflictions are sweet preservatives to keep the saints from sin. Now this lady was of those saints. By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son, ]. Righteousness (1343) (dikaiosune from dikaios = just, righteous = root idea of conforming to a standard or norm) is derived from a root word that means straightness. In context lupe speaks of pain, which could be of body but especially of one's mind as one experiences severe mental or emotional distress associated with the discipline of the LORD. That command does not mean that we always go around with a smile on our face, saying, “Praise the Lord,” even when we’re hurting. With the scales of the judgment lifted from their proper place, how can I sit and form a just idea of the wisdom of God in his dispensations? Nothing warns them when water is too hot or a hammer handle is splintered. Through memory's sunset air, Not only does chastening not seem to be joyous, it isn't joyous, but grievous -- that is our experience. Eventually they settle in a depression where the soil is damp several feet deep. Whatever our circumstances, God knows the seriousness of our difficulties and is working powerfully behind the scenes for our good. Now we solemnly believe that it is the Lord's holy will that His child should feel the chastisement to be grievous; that the smartings of the rod should be felt. That is what God has to do with some of His people. Similarly, David pleaded with God to "restore to me the joy of Thy salvation." The burden must first be felt, before it is cast upon the Lord; the chastisement must be felt to be grievous, before the tenderness and sympathy of Jesus will be sought. Afterward the golden reaping, Righteousness and peace always go together. Don’t think that His gracious pursuit of you will go away. Is it the Father who loves me that now afflicts me? It is consolatory that the very exhortation to filial resignation in Hebrews 12 recognizes the fact that "no chastening for the present seems to be joyous, but grievous. Tamar’s brother, Absalom, murdered Amnon and later led a rebellion against David. First, as we have seen (Heb 12:1-note), an athlete has to strip himself of all needless weights or en-cumbrances that would hinder him from running well. Two years later, I conducted the funeral for his wife, who also died of cancer. . Hebrews 12 Goto page 310; HENRY ALFORD. Hebrews 12:11 Common English Bible (CEB). Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. $3.99 a month puts a library of commentaries, study notes, and Greek & Hebrew language tools right in your pocket. In 1935, the Byrams moved to Manchuria, which was under Japanese rule. They mainly kept you from being entangled in a worldly system; they have preserved you from resting in the form without the power, and kept you from that notional dead-letter faith which has ruined so many thousands. YET TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY IT: de karpon eirenikon tois di autes gegumnasmenois (RPPMPD) apodidosin (3SPAI) dikaiosunes: Yet (de) - Another strategic (and in this case merciful and grace filled) term of contrast! Hebrews 12 - Therefore, since we also have such a large cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us lay aside every hindrance and the sin that so easily ensnares us. When He does, we have to trust that He is our loving Father who has our good in view. Yet the writer continues, "Nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it." "peaceable." NAS = discipline(1), trained(3). He may seem to be rich, or seem to be poor, seem to be sick, or seem to be in health; he looks upon all that as the seeming. Out Of The Thorns - The gorse bush is a shrub that was imported from Europe and now grows wild in the Pacific Northwest. Consider the following testimony by C. H. Spurgeon: I am afraid that all the grace I have got out of my comfortable and easy times and happy hours might almost lie on a penny. In the several uses of the term in Hebrews 12:5-11, the translators of the Authorized Version rendered it “chastening,” which is clearly the emphasis of that context. This allows them to lie dormant on the sand for several seasons until conditions are right for growth. Hebrews 12:11 Do Not Grow Weary. Rise up and stand forth as men ready for the race. She said that for a long time she used to have a great deal of pleasure in watching a bird that came to make its nest near her window. Gratified wishes, our Father knows, would often be our real curses. Dr. and Mrs. Roy Byram and the Rev. He assured them that every branch of the true vine that brought forth fruit would be purged, that it might bring forth more fruit. I consider it, however, a great mercy where there are these exercises, for I am well convinced that exercise is as much needed for the health of the soul as of the body. But sweet will be the flower. "That all the jarring notes of life For by it the elders obtained a good report. If the soil could talk, it might have whined, "Who needs this painful plowing?" If the answer is yes, we make him do it. To benefit by God’s discipline, we must be “trained” by it. By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace. NAS =- afterward(4), afterwards(1), last(1), later(3). We are not to forget, not to despise, not to faint (Heb 12:5), but we are to endure (Heb 12:7), and to be in subjection (Heb 12:9). We’re all prone to trust in ourselves, rather than in the Lord. AFTERWARDS IT YIELDS THE PEACEFUL FRUIT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS: de karpon eirenikon tois di autes gegumnasmenois (RPPMPD) apodidosin (3SPAI) dikaiosunes: De Haan says "The important key word in this verse is afterwards. What! Peter, sharing Paul's magnanimity, writes to the "elect" as those who were "in heaviness through manifold trials." Occasionally God will let us be roughed up to grow up. But to cease to believe in God on account of suffering does not make God cease to exist, and it does not resolve the problem. He was only feeling relief at the thought of getting away from a woman who, I admit, was not pleasant to live with! The real object of the fathers in chastening is not that they find pleasure in the children's pain. 1. Judging by his squad’s record, both on and off the field, Lou Holtz’s charges for the most part became better men. May the LORD fulfill all your petitions." His son Amnon raped his half-sister, Tamar. His words touched her tender heart. The writer of Hebrews confesses, "Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but grievous" (12:11). We must face the fact that many today are notoriously careless in their living. I grant that it is difficult to understand how God can be both good and omnipotent, and yet allow the horrible suffering that we see in the world. When those fruits are ripened they are (1.) The objection that chastening is grievous is here anticipated and answered. Peaceful (1516) (eirenikos from eirene = peace) pertains to being conducive to a harmonious relationship - peaceable. Faith discerns love gleaming like a jewel on the breast of an angry God. That hardship can actually be a blessing—or "a severe mercy," to recall Sheldon Vanauken's book of that title—is a profoundly Christian insight seldom heard these days, even from the clergy, who so often seem preoccupied with being "pastoral" or superficially popular. Like any loving father, He disciplines, corrects, and trains us—often through difficult situations. Galatians 5:22, 23. Pain And Gain - Years ago I was an extremely anxious Christian. If you fight against the discipline, you can be assured that that will not make it disappear. Fruit (2590) (karpos) is used in its literal sense to refer to fruit, produce or offspring, which describes that which is produced by the inherent energy of a living organism. Corrupting worldly things, are great enchantments. That interpretation seems very reasonable when compared with another passage that speaks of "spiritual training" (using same verb gumnazo as Heb 12:11). Afflictions are disciplinary. Why the Lord allows so many of his people to be so long and so deeply tried about their saving interest in Christ, why he does not more speedily and fully manifest his pardoning love to their souls, is a mystery which we cannot fathom. —John Yates. Discussion of suffering as a Divine Gift! God gave us tear ducts for a reason! Let us settle it firmly in our minds, that there is a meaning, a 'needs be', and a message from God—in every sorrow that falls upon us. There would be no training in repentance, patience, faith, if the rod caused no pain. ALL DISCIPLINE FOR THE MOMENT SEEMS NOT TO BE JOYFUL, BUT SORROWFUL: pasa de paideia pros men to paron ou dokei charas einai alla lupes. Walk by faith and not by sight. (The Holiest of All - Yet Afterward), The fruit (WORK) of righteousness will be peace; the effect of righteousness will be quietness and confidence forever. And even so the joy of eternity can keep a soul in perfect peace amid abounding afflictions. This is why we must keep our eyes on Jesus (Heb 12:2-note, Heb 12:3-note) and keep running (Heb 12:1-note)! For firm and loving discipline —Anon. It would have been a kindness to have torn that nest down. (4) God’s discipline produces the peaceful fruit of righteousness by uncovering hidden sins and blind spots. ILLUSTRATION - No professional football team that plays its home games in a domed stadium with artificial turf has ever won the Super Bowl. This chastening is said to yield these fruits "unto those who are exercised (trained) thereby." (Vine) Dokeo is a verb with the general meaning "to think" in a variety of contexts. Harvest-home and grateful song! I shall not be afraid. Like mountain-ranges overpast Isaiah 26:16. it enables him to bear the pain without murmuring, and (2.) And here most are, who are not exercised--resting in "a name to live," and in the doctrine without the experience. A W Tozer said "It is doubtful if God can bless a man greatly without hurting him deeply.". By all that is sacred and worthy of desire, the word would have us know and believe that affliction is a blessing. The Jewish historian Josephus uses gymnazo in his description of the Roman soldier writing that "their military exercises differ not at all from the real use of their arms, but every soldier is every day exercised (gymnazo), and that with great diligence, as if it were in time of war which is the reason why they bear the fatigue of battles so easily." As they lifted up the hands and knees, and roused themselves to enter the straight path, the lame would be healed, the courage of faith would give new strength, faith in Jesus would give perfect soundness. He said, “My Father is glorified by this: that you bear much fruit, and prove to be my disciples” (John 15:8). (Hebrews 12:7-11 Responding to God's Discipline), Spurgeon asks "If affliction seemed to be joyous, would it be a chastisement at all? The worst had happened. In times of trouble we pray feelingly and fervently. We are not to look for the proper fruits of affliction while we are suffering, but afterwards. THOUGHT - Are you willing to wait patiently for the "awards ceremony," the time of recompense for having endured discipline without wavering or complaining because you have kept one eye on eternity and relied on His enabling inner strengthening to keep on fighting this good fight of faith? God is never cruel in His correction. The Greek word (gymnazo; we get gymnasium from it) indicates physical training or exercise. De Haan It is that feeling of inner gladness, delight or rejoicing. "Now the pruning-sharp, unsparing, He knows where each of us is lacking and what we need to develop the spiritual muscle to run well. Spurgeon - Carnal reason judges in the present light, which happens to be the very worst light in which to form a correct estimate. God's discipline is designed to make us like His Son. See Cole's list of Seven ways in which God's discipline produces the peaceful fruit of righteousness, Our Daily Bread, Copyright RBC Ministries, Grand Rapids, MI. He who sent the chastisement appointed its character– He intended that it should be felt. Then God sends some affliction or other—to stir us up to take hold of Him. Perhaps to be able to explain suffering is the clearest indication of never having suffered. 11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Insincere professors are no real part of the tree, but as branches tied on; not to be pruned, but cut off, unless they repent. There, God in His grace can cause His beauty to be seen in you. Discipline seems-to our limited, time-bound perspective-not to be joyful, but sorrowful. Figuratively, karpos is used of the consequence of physical, mental, or spiritual action. Of the Hallelujah song. Adversity has a way of causing us to lean on the Lord in ways that we don’t need to when times are trouble-free. Finally. In a quiet subdivision in Lake in the Hills, Illinois, a rare blue heron stumbled into a steel trap designed to catch invading muskrats. “While I have a trial I have a ground of hope.” “Your God has forsaken you,” says tribulation. It meant, literally, to strip naked. R. De Haan II(Ibid), DIVINE RESCUE - ALL DISCIPLINE FOR THE MOMENT SEEMS NOT TO BE JOYFUL, BUT SORROWFUL; YET . Hebrews 12:10.The vessels of mercy are the brighter for scouring. In Hebrews 12, we read that our heavenly Father loves us too dearly to let us remain immature. What they need is firm, loving, and at times painful discipline. Hebrews 12:11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness. These results are described as "the peaceable fruits of righteousness." The husbandman "has patience." The fires of affliction and trial may be painful for a time, but afterward they will result in great blessing and reward (He 12:11). Your reward will be a right relationship with God and man in which peace reigns supreme. Understand the meaning of Hebrews 12:11 using all available Bible versions and commentary. It is not an experience that comes from favorable circumstances but even occurs when those circumstances are the most painful and severe as Jesus taught His disciples declaring "Truly, truly, I say to you, that you will weep and lament, but the world will rejoice; you will be sorrowful, but your sorrow will be turned to joy. I am glad that the Bible acknowledges that fact! I remember well when my brother and I collected some sap from our maple trees in the back yard. Sure enough, mother removed the potatoes and brought Sally some ice cream. James speaks of the fruit of righteousness that comes from times of testing writing…, Consider (aorist imperative - Do this now. Tertullian - Oh, happy the servant for whose improvement his Lord is earnest, with whom he deigns to be angry, whom He does not deceive by dissembling admonition" (withholding admonition, and so leading the man to think he needs it not)! Joyful? If so, look ahead to the fruit He will bring out of this difficulty. Pastor Steven Cole makes the point that We should submit to the Father’s discipline because although it is difficult for the present, it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to all that are trained by it (Hebrews 12:11).The author makes three points in Heb 12:11: A. Do you chafe at the bit (so to speak) like a horse who does not want to accept the bit and bridle? By it He often draws souls away from sin and the world, which would otherwise have perished everlastingly. Psalm 20:5 Spurgeon's comment) or reaps a bountiful harvest (see Isa 9:3), but more often the Bible speaks of joy in a spiritual sense. Like fruit it may appear at first sour, crabbed, and unpalatable; but it will be at last like the ruddy peach or the golden orange. His dealings with us are always thoughtful and purposeful, producing in us "the peaceable fruit of righteousness" (He 12:11).—Joanie Yoder (Ibid). No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, [leaning] upon the top of his staff. As Paul wrote (2Cor 6:10), though we are sorrowful, we are yet always rejoicing, knowing that God is for us and that He is working all our trials together for our good (Ro 8:28-note, Ro 8:29, 30-note, Ro 8:31, 32, 33-note, Ro 8:34, 35, 36-note). —Oswald Chambers, Nourishing Tears - The same tears that break our hearts may also nourish us in ways that matter most to God. there is healing--choose it, take it. And all the billows of its strife that can be seen and touched. You have not come to a place like Mount Sinai # 12.18 a place like Mount Sinai: The Greek text has âa place,â but the writer is referring to the time that the Lord spoke to the people of Israel from Mount Sinai (see Exodus 19.16-25). The entire chapter Hebrews 12 interlinear (Greek/English), translated word by word and with Greek grammar parsing codes, ... Hebrews 12:11. Wuest adds that "The emphasis is upon the fact that every kind of chastening, whether human or divine, does not seem joyous.". In an interview with The Saturday Evening Post in 1989, he was quoted as saying, "When it comes to discipline here, we ask three questions: Will it make him a better man? Eventually they settle in a depression where the soil has become damp to a depth of several feet. The great word that hope is ever using, as it points to what is still hidden, but surely coming. I feel safe in God's arms. As you know, Jesus in the Garden, prayed, “Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done” (Lk 22:42). 3. (2) God’s discipline produces the peaceful fruit of righteousness by stripping us of self-righteousness, self-sufficiency, and pride. Certainly there is joy in human life, such as joy when one experiences a victory (" We will sing for joy over your victory, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners. A. W. Tozer, Men Who Met God. What a challenge for anyone plagued by fear! He seeks to glorify God in everything. Wuest: In fact, all discipline, correction, and guidance for the time being does not seem to be joyous but grievous; yet afterward it yields a return of the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been exercised by it. Afterward the plenteous bearing They were sent for this purpose. It’s not a contradiction that the shortest verse in the Greek New Testament is, “Rejoice always,” whereas the shortest verse in the English New Testament is, “Jesus wept” (John 11:35)! Afflictions are in themselves bitter—but they bring forth the sweet fruits of righteousness. The Making Of You - Scottish author George MacDonald told this story of a woman who had experienced a great tragedy in her life: "The heartache was so crushing and her sorrow so bitter that the one in distress exclaimed, 'I wish I'd never been made.' Comment: Remember that like any "garden", fruit needs to be diligently, carefully cultivated. And whether I am sitting at my beloved old desk in the Jewish district or in a labor camp under SS guards, I shall feel safe in God's arms. Secular dictionaries define joy as the emotion evoked by well-being, success, or good fortune or the emotion evoked by the prospect of possessing what one desires. Ps 5:11; 16:11; 20:5; 27:6; 30:5; 32:11; 33:1, 3; 35:27; 42:4; 43:4; 45:7; 47:1; 48:2; 51:8, 12; 63:7; 65:8, 13; 67:4; 71:23; 81:1; 84:2; 87:7; 89:12; 90:14; 92:4; 95:1; 96:12; 98:4, 8; 105:43; 119:111; 126:6; 132:9, 16; 137:6; 149:5; Rejoice, rejoicing, etc - 43x in Psalms - Ps 2:11; 9:14; 13:4f; 14:7; 16:9; 19:5, 8; 21:1; 30:1; 31:7; 32:11; 33:21; 34:2; 35:9, 15, 19, 24, 26f; 38:16; 40:16; 45:15; 48:11; 51:8; 53:6; 58:10; 63:11; 65:12; 66:6; 68:3; 70:4; 85:6; 89:16, 42; 96:11; 97:1, 8; 106:5; 118:24; 119:14, 162; 149:2). Hebrews 12:11 It may be said of spiritual exercises as the Apostle speaks of chastening generally, of which indeed they form a component part, that "for the present they are not joyous, but grievous; but afterward they yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto those who are exercised thereby." One year it came to make its nest, and it began to build so low down she was afraid something would happen to the young; and every day that she saw that bird busy at work making its nest, she kept saying, "O bird, build higher! For all the heartaches and the tears, But presently the cloud has dispersed, and the sun has shone on a transfigured scene. If so, it is not wrong to ask the Father to remove it, if it’s His will, and to take steps to resolve the problem. By letting us suffer such painful consequences for our sin, God teaches us that sin causes devastation and death, so that we will flee from it when we are tempted. A young pastor friend has... been through the trial of his life. 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